JonBenet Ramsey

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

For discussion.
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ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

I will start this discussion since it was my comments that got some response. I (at first) believed what I was reading through the media about the guilt of the Ramseys. After reading the JD book "The Cases that Haunt Us" I realized that not only could I have been wrong but I could see how a devided community could create such a mess of this case. One thing I learned after reading JD's book is that unless you have heard both sides to a story it is foolish to make snap judgements. There is no way I can prove that John and Patsy did or did not (which I now believe) did this to their daughter. However, I can certainly see and understand how the media can be manipulated and in turn manipulate the public. We are all raised to believe that the media presents a factual and unbiased story. Well that is against human nature. We all have values and opinions and it is the hardest thing for each of us to remove ourselves to a completely open yet objective state of thought. Early on the police department believed that the parents were involved. As a result every shred of evidence that was fed to the public was the evidence that would support that conclusion. That is simple manipulation. Yes statisically we can say that children die at the hands of their parents. However, we can also say that children die at the hands of other people as well. Simple statistics doesnt make it the only truth. Unless ALL of the facts were released it is impossible to have a complete understanding of what may or may not implicate the parents. Further the police might be comfortable with the public believing that the Ramseys did this. Other wise they might just be pressured to identify and apprehend a killer that is on the loose. My last point and I am taking this from someone elses comments was regarding the parents staging this crime. I am once again going to ask.... If they parents killed their own daughter and staged the crime.....WHY on earth would they select their own house as the staging location? They would be at the top of that suspect list. I would appologize to the Ramseys (for my former beliefs) and offer them compassion for the loss of their daughter.

isiskay

Yep. First, I don't believe, for a minute, this was a planned crime. It may have been, initially, an accident. However, I do believe both parents are guilty of interfering with an already flawed investigation. I also believe they covered for each other. Their behavior after the crime was so bizarre, that it, alone, made them look very guilty. True, not everyone grieves in the same way but, the hiring of 2 (separate) lawyers was a "red flag" for me. The whole situation was very strange. Do I believe this crime will ever be solved? Nope. Do you?
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ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

Why is hiring two different lawyers a red flag? I know lots of people (who have money) think it is the best way to conduct any kind of matter. As far and hiring 2 lawyers..... 2 heads are ALWAYS better then one. Hiring or not hiring a lawyer does't convince me of someones guilt or innocence. Last and not least remember the media was being fed information that would make the Ramseys appear guilty. At least look at the other information available before you judge their guilt.

With that having been said.... I find the two notices that were sent pretty interesting. I don't suppose there is anyway you might share those with me at my email?

Think

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

I agree completely Rainsong. In fact in JD's book "The Cases That Haunt Us" it is addressed why (and who) advised them to do this. SOOOOOO for the life of me I can't understand why people percieve that as a measurement of guilt.

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

Gotcha Rainsong,

I guess I had missed a whole lot of discussion on this subject long before I registered here. I did back up and catch myself up. Very strange what I read of certain theories. However, compliments to you for providing so much information as to sources on the case. I have three of the books in my possession now but haven't read any of them with the exception of the JD's chapter in "The Cases That Haunt Us", so far. It was nice to see your realistic, completely objective views of the material. I am dying to know your theory on the subject. If you want to keep that private I wouldnt mind getting it via email even.

Think

BigAppleDetective · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: The Perpetrator

If you think I rolled out of bed one day and conjured up a perp, you don't pay attention to my posts.

The perp [who called me at HOME, and who PM'd me twice here] has posted more than 1000 pages and over 50 color photographs pointing to herself.

When I said the perp dipthongs her A's she wrote a fanfiction article about it!

Why would a murderer leave a drop of DNA co-mingled with JonBenet's blood when it's obvious she was wearing 2 sets of gloves and left no fingerprints?!

Because she had hoped that ten years ago they would say the person is a MALE.

Why? Because the police departments do not have a DNA base for INSANE females. For INSANE sadistic child hating MONSTERS who have been assigned the female sex when they are really warped and psychotic, vicious serial killer six foot tall MEN born with deformed penes.

The worst part is - that after the PERP confesses - she'll be put in a cage with other women!

So she can go on sewing and singing and being amused with her own notoriety.

She even has her own web site now.

By the way, her "accomplices" were unwitting accomplices - and ALL 3 OF THEM & THE PERP now live in California.

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

Big Apple,

No one thinks you stabbed at the dark. But you do realize.... assuming you have been contacted.... as you say...... that people do confess to crimes they did NOT commit? Right? You do realize that! right? My second question is why would this person be contacting YOU? Your in NY and the crime was committed in Boulder, CO? What is the motivation for being in contact with YOU specfically? I can't see the connection. Now for the co-mingling of blood. Where did that information come from? What exactly are your evidence sources? Before I can give your theory in validity I need to be able to varify through some sources that the evidence you are claiming is in existance. To this date I dont know about any blood co-mingling. What is your source that proves 2 pairs of gloves were worn? Some of your comments come off as defensive to your theory. There is even a sense of hostility. It's hard to believe you are funtioning objectively when emotion can be sensed in your comments. Give me something tangible.

Think

Rainsong · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363

Think Tank, I sent you a pm. Did you get it?

I never know if these things work...
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ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

Rainsong,

I cant get the link to pull up.

Think

ThinkTank · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3742

Rainsong,

I got it. I am going to read it now. Thanks so much.

Think